[Mimedefang] monkeys.dom UPL being DDOSed to death
Jon R. Kibler
Jon.Kibler at aset.com
Tue Sep 23 15:58:00 EDT 2003
The link has already been made. The evidence is already there.
Just three problems:
1) Before you can get the Feds to investigate, you have to demonstrate substantial damage. The law says $5,000, but the reality is a minimum of $250,000... besides, the Feds are too busy on "bigger issues" to care about spammers.
2) These attacks are international in scope. You have to have the cooperation of international ISPs to track down the ultimate controlling system(s). There is already enough evidence in place to show at least some of these attacks originate from spammer compromised systems.
3) The political will to fight spam simply isn't there. The DMA has deep pockets and, although they say want a crackdown on criminal spammers, their actions to thwart such investigations belie their press releases. (If the DMA was really serious about going after criminal spammers, they would be supporting the work of sites like Monkeys, NJABL, ORDB, etc., instead of fighting them.)
Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> I have the feeling that these DDOS are probably from the spammers that
> cause most of our problems.. just figure out if you can link the DDOS
> machines to virus infected machines and then you have a criminal tract
> that might interest federal law enforcement more.
> On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 11:58, Jon R. Kibler wrote:
> > Greetings to all:
> > I have some really sad news. I just got off the telephone with Ron Guilmette who runs the monkeys.com Unsecured Proxies List DNSBL. I hate to say it, but monkeys.com has been killed. It has been DDOSed to death.
> Stephen John Smoogen smoogen at lanl.gov
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